Interview with UFO abductees / contactees

Kim Carlsberg discusses her UFO abductions and how she was able to stop them in an interview with Kerry Cassidy. They discuss experiences that would shrivel many people as well as the understanding they gained from them. When a UFO experiencer comes through the gauntlet of abduction and hybridization program Kim and Kerry discuss, their views of the world are changed forever. Neither Ida Kannenberg nor I lived out and participated in the hybridization agenda like Kim and Kerry discuss and have often wondered why. Ida and my roles were different than those Kim and Kerry discuss.

Military harrassment in alliance with rogue UFO factions is something Kim, Kerry, Ida and I appear to share. Kim said that she would take the worst kind of Gray abduction over the military any day. The Grays are doing a job. The military and rogue UFO factions are sadistic. It makes sense. The military and rogue UFO factions that dog genuine ET contacts attempt to make the situation difficult for experiencers and scare off genuine ET contacts, and they get mean and nasty in ways genuine ETs do not. As Bob Dean, Cliff Stone and others have said, genuine ETs watch the military and rogues. In the larger picture the military and rogues have a limited reach that gets smaller with every passing year and decade. Knowledge about military and rogue efforts is the best protection against them and casts far greater light on genuine ET efforts.

The Arcturan Maez is a 6-foot tall gray that communicated with both Ida and me and discussed with Ida the details of hybridization and Big Foot in her book "My Brother Is A Hairy Man." Ida and I were challenged in a different way, and Ida always said that after UFO contact you know who you are and who you are not. Maez once explained to me that what humans call creator gods are master scientists who work long and hard to gain understanding of the many aspects of life as scientists. Humans, who rarely invest sufficient effort in anything to master it, view master scientists as gods. The religious reverence of creator gods who are, in truth, master scientists is all about human psychology.

One of the remarkable things that Kim and Kerry share is the commitment they made to their work. If more people committed to meaningful work we'd have this planet cleaned up fast. Sirian George once said in response to a request for more evidence, "Tell them that when they stand up for just one thing they really believe, I'll consider giving them more evidence."

When I did my first presentation of Jose Arguelles' Dreamspell, a tall gray walked across the stage behind me that other people saw as clear as day. Also, I had wonderful UFO encounters with Bashar's craft that involved 8 other witnesses. These guys are very real and different factions approach people differently.

You can skip the music that precedes the interview by going directly to 5:00 on the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7OkXszMwG0

Krsanna