[TimeStar] Atlantis vs Oklahoma

Sun Mar 20 01:14:42 EST 2005

Oklahoma has at least one intriguing archaeological site at Heavener, Oklahoma, which looks for all the world like a Viking astronomical observatory.  Believe it or not, some of the petroglyphs have a strong Egyptian thread.  

The Heavener site has been turned into an Oklahoma State Park.  A summer solstice observatory has drawings of an Egyptian Anubis dating to the new Kingdom, within a 1,000 BCE.

Still... these are a long ways from Atlantis dated to 9,500 B.C.  Eight thousand years is a long time in a culture.

That the Vikings were in America by at least 900 A.D. is now a well recognized fact.  They used a land bridge in the North Atlantic.  The Vikings built a settlement and gave birth to children in what is now New York.  And, oh yeah! The Vikings had telescopes way back then, but it took a long time for archaeologists to figure out that the decorations were really lenses.  

Factual data like these (and I archived articles on the Viking telescopes) support my developing theory that Atlantis sank slowly and that considerably more land was above water in the Atlantic than is currently the case.  

ATLANTIS IS STILL SINKING.  Plato may or may not have dramatized the sinking of the Poseidon, the main city, in a single day and night.  That land masses have been sinking in the Atlantic for something like 12,000 years and are continuing to subside does not necessarily negate Plato's account of a dramatic ending for one city.  

Krakatoa sank in a single day and night in the 1890's.  The volcano on that island had been active since the 16th century when Europeans had first mapped it.  Hundreds of years later, in the late 19th century, the volcano began erupting one day and nobody paid much attention because it was always erupting.  The next morning, the larger island of Krakatoa had disappeared except for two small masses still above water.  

This dramatic ending of Krakatoa started with volcanic eruptions that had been ongoing throughout "recorded" history and ended with the island disappearing one day with a dramatic eruption.  Small volcanic islands are still rising and sinking in the area.  One volcanic island rose around 1969 and another in 1995.  

Before the events are over that began with the dramatic Sumatra quake in 2004, the ongoing seismic nature of this planet will be much clearer to a lot of people.

Krsanna

Krsanna,

I met an older man who wanted to show me some rocks he had brought with him
to the UFO congress.  Some had beautiful crystals encrusted in these rocks and
some of the rocks had flat edges like bricks.  He said they were from Atlantis.
I said, "OK" and asked him where he found them.  He said, "Oklahoma".  I asked
him how they got from Atlantis to Oklahoma and he said that Oklahoma WAS
Atlantis!  Ha, that was a new one on me.  He also dated Atlantis as billions
of years old!  

Bill
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  While virtually all authors about Atlantis identify the city by Plato's description of a circular design, thus rely on Plato's account, it is amazing that so many want to locate it in places Plato never described.  Several ancient ruins that were constructed in circular designs that various authors claim to be Plato's lost city, citing Plato as the source of their information.  But, apparently, they fall back on Plato only when convenient and otherwise ignore Plato's geographic location of Atlantis.  

  The civilization of Atlantis was an empire and the main city, Poseidon, was exactly that, according to Plato.  Poseidon was the main city of a vast empire.  Could an empire of that size have more than one large city.  You bet ya.  

  One author has identified a large circular structure beneath the ice at the Antarctic.  The site is factually anomalous and the author has done some very good research.  Rand Flem-Ath, the author, locates his Atlantis at 81 degrees, 52 minutes south at the Antarctic and 111 degrees, 18 minutes West directly south of Easter Island.  

  Large parts of the Easter Island region have submerged relatively recently in geological time and was the site of a mysterious civilization that predates recorded history.  Flem-Ath largely relies of factual data as a foundation for his speculation.  

  Jim Allen, on the other hand, who believes Atlantis was in Boliva, has built his Atlantis on inaccurate data that can be shown inaccurate with just a little research.  Allen tries to convert Plato's dates into lunar years even though the Egyptians did not use a lunar calendar until a millenium (1,000 years) after Plato's death.  Plato was initiated in Egypt and attributed the historical records for Atlantis to the Egyptians, so the Egyptian calendar counts in Plato's dates.

  The ancient Egyptians used a Sothic calendar.  The Muslims brought a lunar calendar to Egypt in relatively recent millennia, when considering the timeline that Plato describes for Atlantis.  But that's just one little point that Allen could easily have found to get his story straight.  

  You can't get to Atlantis with a lunar calendar when citing Plato as the authority for the empire's existence.  I'm not sure why anyone would want to get to Atlantis anyway, since it represented a tyrannical empire that the "gods" took to task for mixing with humans.  

  Allen also cites the Aztec word for water, "Atl", as his first rationale supporting Atlantis in Bolivia.  The illogic of using an Aztec word to support the existence of Atlantis is beyond any kind of good reason.  THE AZTECS MIGRATED FROM ASIA TO THE AMERICAS WITHIN THE LAST 2,000 YEARS.  

  Allen asserts that we can look to Asia for proof of Atlantis in Bolivia.  His pretext for Atlantis meanders as he goes along.  Perhaps he did not research the origin of the Aztecs before pulling the Aztec word out of nothing that makes sense.

  What Allen has that is good is aerial photos from which he identified a location in Bolivia that sort of looks the way Plato described Atlantis.  The satellite photos Allen has are worth looking at, but his explanation for the site in Bolivia is off the charts into poor research and history.  Allen learned to compare aerial photos to ground sites while in the Air Force, and he's done a good job at this.  He could use a basic course on research methods for the rest of his assumptions.

  The circular design of the Bolivian area that Allen identifies could be explained in a lot of ways, considering its proximity to the site of a very ancient civilization in South America, which, by the way, is on the same continent that was once associated with Easter Island in alignment with the other circular site that Rand Flem-Ath identified.

  I'm placing my money on Plato's geography, which places Atlantis in the Atlantic Ocean.  Plato got several key points right, but that's not to say that his historical account of Atlantis that began sinking 9,000 years BEFORE Plato wrote about it is absolutely accurate.  Plato's geography and anthropolgy, however, is supported by some historical facts that were revealed as recently as 2004.  

  My interest in writing about Atlantis relative to the TimeStar is entirely limited to the geological and seismic history of this planet AS IT RELATES to contemporary and future events.  I never had any interest in Atlantis, even when ET's claiming to be from Atlantis contacted me, until I realized the implications that empire had on the seismic and geological events that are now unfolding.  

  It is possible that ancient cities relevant to the Atlantean culture existed in Bolivia and the Antarctic.  These are interesting to the TimeStar only as the affect earth changes now in process.

  Krsanna
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