[TimeStar] Motives for 911 according to Rich

[stephen calkins]

Hi Krsanna,
    If I read you correctly, you are saying that orchestrated attacks on 
the American people by its government are not conspiracy theories but 
rather part of its Manifest destiny to take over what ever it wants in 
the world.
     Well, I would say that they are truly different ideas in the minds 
of Americans, and most Americans, if they were to hear that the 
government was willing to kill them, or their friends for some turf in 
another country, that they would not accept that as the country's 
'manifest destiny.' Manifest destiny was O.K. as long as you were 
killing 'savages' or 'foreigners', but when it comes to killing White 
Christian Americans, they would say, "No way Jose."
     I think I understand the point you were trying to make, (which was 
that American's are willing to kill others, if they can get something 
for themselves out of it and not be hurt.) Unfortunately, there is a 
lot of truth to that. As far as the use of the term 'conspiracy theory' 
in reference to 911, I would say that the government is served to 
cover-up the crime it has committed, by using that term to deflect from 
the truth of what it has done on 9/11. It's objectives are/were control 
of people, land resources and the power that comes with it. We 
shouldn't waste our energy debating over terms where 911 is concerned. 
It is beyond any reasonable doubt that the corporate secret US 
government pulled off 911, and that the Arabs, like the Jews in WWII, 
were the pawns to allow the take over of a whole lot of other people's 
things, other than the Jews. Much Love, Steve

On Jan 9, 2005, at 2:11 PM, TimeStar wrote:

> This email from Rich lays out his theory for the motives that prompted 
> the U.S. government and global elite to orchestrate 911.  Again, this 
> is a distraction, but it serves a purpose.  Rich assumes Americans 
> have been duped into securing oil fields and advancing the New World 
> Order, and that a conspiracy was necessary to incite The People to 
> these onerous acts. 
>   
>
> A survey of American history demonstrates that conspiracy has never 
> been necessary to accomplish these objectives.  Although, conspiracy 
> theories may serve the purpose of excusing the obvious behavior of The 
> People of America by portraying them as dupes with no responsiblity 
> for what the government and global elite have tricked them into 
> believing.  The consistency of American behavior and beliefs over 200 
> years suggests that something more powerful than a conspiracy of the 
> federal government and global elite drives them; albeit, the 
> government and elite may capitalize on the predispositions in American 
> behavior for centuries. 
>   
> If you listen carefully to the rhetoric of many Americans, it sounds 
> like they didn't need anyone to incite them into a war in the Mideast 
> to secure oil fields and provide impetus for the Patriot Acts.  
> EXPANSIONIST OBJECTIVES HAVE BEEN ACCEPTABLE TO MANY AMERICANS FOR TWO 
> HUNDRED YEARS.  Study the Amistad case available on the Supreme 
> Court's web site.  Listen to what Americans talk about in daily 
> conversations. 
>   
> The American public advocated securing oil fields in Oklahoma and 
> taking Indian children from their homes to Christianize them, forcing 
> them to abandon their land, 100 years ago.  These are acceptable 
> objectives for many Americans that do not require any impetus from the 
> global elite.  The outcomes of the Iraqi war were predictable from the 
> beginning.  I know, because I predicted them. 
>   
> Rich forgot the part about securing land bases in the Middle East as a 
> major objective of the Iraqi war.  Wolfewitz talked about this 
> objective in an interview with a major publication after the invasion, 
> I believe it was Vanity Fair.  The U.S. needed land and Iraq was the 
> easiest to take and was stragetic to military purposes. 
>   
> Americans have never needed to be tricked into taking take land they 
> wanted when it was owned by somebody else.  The federal policy to do 
> this used to be called Manifest Destiny, and it was a popular federal 
> policy for a long time before 911 happened. 
>   
> The fact that so many Americans didn't give a damn when they learned 
> that false information was used to justify the Iraqi invasion supports 
> my theory on this.  Many Americans already believed that laws like the 
> Patriot Act was necessary and thought the Bill of Rights was too 
> liberal before 911. 
>   
> If it is true that the behavior of large numbers of Americans has not 
> required conspiracies to incite it, then what is the driving force for 
> this behavior over hundreds of years. 
>   
> A brief survey of history points to the Christian right since millions 
> of illiterate Christians immigrated to America within 40 years after 
> the American revolution.  Hard data on the influence of illiteracy and 
> institutionalized Christianity in America is abundantly available in 
> America's legislation. 
>   
> Krsanna
>  
>  
> RICH WROTE:
>  
> It's about time someone said it loud and clear: The events of 9-11 
> were planned, orchestrated and carried out by the U.S. government and 
> the global elite to insite Americans into a long-planned war in the 
> mideast to secure oil fields, to provide and impetous for the passage 
> of the long planned "Patriot Acts" and the consolidation of government 
> agencies (FBI, military, etc.), and advance the  "New World 
> Order"--global tyranny for the financial elite.
>
> Let me know if you'd like to see any of several documentaries that 
> prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the official story is a 
> monumental lie (I'm in Missoula). Meanwhile, see 
> www.fromthewilderness.com and/or www.infowars.com to further your 
> education.
>
> Cheers,
> Rich
> richangell2 at yahoo.fr
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